You’re Probably Taking Life Too Seriously - George Mack
00:00:00What were you doing before we left thehouse? I>> I was listening to Nickelback on 2xspeed.>> You were listening to Nickelback on twotimes speed?>> Yeah.>> We just let that sit for a second.>> Mhm.>> And you've been listening to PhilCollins on 1.5 times speed?>> Yeah. Sometimes 1.6.>> Do you want to explain yourself?>> Well, I I went through a phase that I'mstill in. um that I think YouTube isbetter to listen to music on thanSpotify or Apple Music because you canget live tracks way more like it'sunderratedlive tracks on YouTube just hearing thecrowd. Um and I've also stoppedlistening to hip-hop as much.>> Okay.>> Cuz I don't know about you, I startedbecoming a bad person when I'd listen tohip-hop too much. [laughter]>> Did you not get did you never get theone? Well, if you just listen to peoplecommitting crimes in your head all daylong, you do become you do become a bitof a terrible person. So, um well, thiswas what we found. Where were youworking? Was it when you were at SocialChain and we were talking about uhserotonin George, serotonin Chrislistening to Anduna Deepep and then itwas Cortisol George and Cortisol Chrislistening to Kanye West. That waspre-ancellation as well.>> Yeah. I mean, even even Kanye wouldn'tbe full Cortisol. It would be like it'dbe like
00:01:15DMX.>> Okay. or like very angry two pack.>> Okay. Vinnie Paz is great. Jedi mindtricks.>> You've explained you've explained to mewhyyou think that YouTube is a goodplatform. You haven't necessarilyexplained to me why you've beenlistening to>> taking a just taking a little interlude.>> Phil Collins at 1.6 time.>> So when I go to um the gym,I put tunes on on YouTube, usually livetracks. Um but then I was listening toNickelback Rockstar, which is acompletely underrated song. And I was,but if you listen to that at 1x speed,it's quite hard to work out to. But ifyou go and listen to [laughter]if you go and if you listen to hip-hop,it's um it's too>> you want to go and commit a crime.>> But Nickelback at 1.8x speed rockstarcustomizer. He changed the beats perminute and great workout. But this isactually really sad. This is really sad.part which was on if you look look lookat Nickelback Rockstar and you go in thecomments it's like um it's this boytalking about how his dad used to listento Nickelback Rockstar and he's now justabout to have surgery and he's unsure ifhe's going to wake up and he's listeningto Nickelback Rockstar so I'm there likelisten to it at 1x speed reading thecomment section I'm in the commentsincredibly sad I don't little speedyou're speed listening to Nickelbackreading
00:02:30sad comments okay well have youseen the there's a conspiracy theorythat Nickelback's downfall in the mid2000 thousands was to try and demoralizeAmerica after 9/11.>> No. Why? Why demoralize America?>> That Nickelback was kind of on thissurgeent. It was sort of Americanspirit. It was the equivalent for themin the new world after this horriblecatastrophe that had occurred. And uhit's this huge long documentary like Idon't know 40 minute 50-minute breakdownof exactly why Nickelback was sort oftaken down from the inside. M but N Ithink Nickelback are one of the mostunderrated bands of all time becausepeople thought they were one of the mostoverrated bands of all time. They're nowone of the most underrated bands of alltime until they then become the mostoverrated because it's swung back again.Yeah. Well, this is like Creed, right?Creed Creed got to come back around.>> Well, there's talk that um uh there'slike this great videos breaking down whydo people hate Nickelback and one of thetheories is that they try a little bittoo hard as well. Whereas some of theseedgier bands during the era, whichironically everybody's forgot, and therewas this interview with the lead singerof Nickelback, and he's talking abouthow he would study songs, like figureout why songs work with the music.>> Yeah.>> And because he was trying so hard, well,there's something about being nonchulantthat's cool. There's always going to besomething cool about
00:03:45being nonchulant,especially if you're British. But it'snot a very American>> uh like personality trait>> to enjoy nonulence in the same way as aBrit does because the Brit, everybodyenjoys nonulence, but the Brit enjoysnon nonchulence. I nearly saidnonsulence. [laughter]>> It's just something very different.>> The Brit enjoys nonulence in a differentway, which is that it protects us fromhaving to be called a kino.>> Like you don't want to be called tookeen about anything. M>> and you inherently don't like anybodythat does seem too keen or excitable.>> Yeah. When you took me to that uh gymopening the other evening, I was talkingto um a lady there and she was implyingshe was an introvert and yet she waslike one of the most extroverted peoplelike American I don't think Americanintroverts truly exist comparcomparatively to a Britain scale. Yeah.If you here's a question, right? If youhad introversion, extroversion andyou're massively grouping countriestogether, what do you think is the mostextroverted country and most introvertedcountry? If you're grouping thepopulacees,>> you're probably not far off with Americaand the UK.>> You're probably not far off.>> Yeah. Who's more Who's more introvertedthan us? [gasps]>> Japanese.
00:05:01>> Japanese probably cut themselves off 60years.Hardcore [laughter] hardcoreintroversion.>> They did a national a nationalintroversion push them. I mean, who'smore extra? I guess it's probably someSouth American places, you know, likesome Latino>> extroverted, right?>> Yeah. Yeah. Like Brazil.>> Yeah.>> Yeah.>> Uhbut you know, we really have gone fromone end of the Overton window to theother when it comes to extrovert. Butyou're right. Like an Americanextrovert, an American introvert is aBritish extrovert. M an Americanextrovert is a British extrovert, anafterparty at 4:00 a.m. on every singlesubstance that's ever existed trying totalk about how he's going to fix theinterest rates of the Bank of England.>> Yeah, we need to talk about yoursneezing. I'm sorry.>> Okay,let's go for it.>> Do you think that there might be anissue?>> Like a medical issue?>> No, I you sneezed 15 times.>> I did.>> Yeah, I did.>> And they were over a minute apart. Ididn't realize you heard me. I wasupstairs thinking>> you shook the house.>> Yeah.>> You shook the house with them. It wasthunderous.>> Yeah.>> Yeah. Well, it was a bit of a doom loop.Um because I
00:06:16would sneeze, blow my nose,and then whatever something was going upmy nose when I was blowing the nose, andit would then create this economic doomloop like Gary Stevenson's uh in chargeof the economy. It was um it was rough.Yeah, it was rough.>> I don't think I've ever sneezed thatmuch in my entire life. I think that's Ithink and also I think this is youstruggling with not having a girlfriendin the house.>> Yeah, that's a nightmare. Yeah, I do.We've discussed this before that uhguys over a certain age between thehours of 5 to 900 p.m. Like if the hoursof 5 to 5 to 9:00 p.m. was 24 hours, Ithink the economy would go down by about30%. Like we're just useless. Likenothing's happening. Um, it's scrolling,it's checking stuff, it's relaxing butstressing that you should be working orworking whilst thinking that you shouldbe relaxing. This is a realdomesticating influence of having apartner.>> Yeah.>> This is why you need one.>> Yeah. Just purely for the nervoussystem.>> It's for It's so that you don't likeregress back to the mean of just doing[ __ ] that you really wish that youweren't. How do you think you've wasted?What's the biggest um like evening wastethat you've had when you've been singleor not been with your girlfriend?>> [ __ ]
00:07:35It's got to be fun. It's got to be fun.>> Yeah, but where like what's Yeah. So,zoom in. Open your iPhone. What?Instagram.>> Instagram typically.>> And what what sort of stuff onInstagram?>> Instagram or YouTube? But it's notYouTube on TV is really when I watchstuff on my TV, it's always veryconscious cuz I it's such a [ __ ] on totry and change from one video toanother. I'm I'm much more uh uhscrutinous, way more discretion>> around what I'm going to watch if I'mwatching on TV cuz I can't be botheredto change what I'm watching.>> So true. Nobody Nobody uses YouTubeshorts or Tik Tok really on TV.>> There's an Instagram app for TV now forsmart.>> Is anybody using it?>> I don't know. I have to assume so. Ihave to assume so. M I've seen I saw avideo of a guy who ran a 5K underneath atable and in the background throughoutthe entire video took about 30 minuteshe just like spun round under a tablelike this for 30 minutes and in thebackground was someone was watching on aTV was watching Tik Tok swiping throughTik Tok.>> What do you mean somebody's runningunderneath the table? I'm so confused.What do you mean?>> I mean he did it is Straa said that hedid it.>> Uh but in the background it's Tik Tok ona TV. The people have got to be doingit. People have to be>> Jesus.>> Christ.>> Wow. Wow.>> But you're not a vertical videoconsumer.
00:08:50>> No, no, no, no, no, no.>> I'm so confused.>> Me running a 5K under my therapist'stable. Can't imagine that's histherapist. Anyway,>> there you go. That's what you should bedoing. That's actually that's that's thegreatest advert. That's the greatestadvert for having a girlfriend that I'veever seen. That's after 7 p.m.>> Yeah. Wow. Well, if the CCP could seesee this, they'd be delighted.>> If they knew what was going on, you seethe uh the guy who accidentally hacked7,000 DJI Roombas.This dude was trying to control hisRoomba with his PlayStation controller.Hey,>> andended up using Claude. Here it is.>> So, in theory, you could have usedsomeone else's vacuum and navigated itaround their home to see whatever youwanted to see. are launching a deepcleaning at 420 for everyone. Yes.>> Software developer Sammy Ezu wasbuilding an app to hack his DJI Romosmart [music] vacuum. He wanted to usehis PlayStation controller to make itmove. But in the process, heaccidentally uncovered a major securityflaw. With the help of an AI chatbot,Sammy discovered [music] he could alsoaccess what [laughter] he says wereroughly 7,000 other vacuums, allowinghim to get their
00:10:05across locations andeven remotely control other people'svacuums. He [music] could also seethrough other users live camera feedsand hear through their vacuumsmicrophones, features typically [music]in place to help the vacuums navigatearound a home and respond to voicecommands.>> Yeah, it feels like we're going to beliving through an era where this isgoing to happen more and more. Well, we>> can't hack paper and pen. You can't hackyou can't hack the Moleskin notepad.>> That's true. Although they have got adigital version of that now. Uh we weretalking to a friend at dinner the othernight and he said everybody here hastried to get Chachi PT to do somethingillegal. I I can see if you can get methis for free if you can hack the backend or do extract whatever. And one ofour friends who works building datacenters said he'd used some offlabelChinese model that's run locally on hiscomputer and didn't mean to get it to dosomething illegal, but it did. So he putin he wanted to try and see if theycould screenshot all of this differentdata and it's thinking I can't do that.Thinking I can't do that. Thinking, oh,there's an API that's open on the backend. I can just pull the entire websiteout and now he's got 9,000 pieces ofdata that completely illegal to have. Soour models, we can't get to do somethingillegal when they want them to. Or evenjust slight like I was ask I askedClaude
00:11:21the other day for what do peoplethink are where's the ugly because yousaid the UK has the ugliest men in theworld. [laughter] So I got I askedClaude where do you think has theugliest men or could you pull the dataof what people think has the ugliest menand it refused to do it.>> So it won't do that but then the itwould give you the most good-lookingthough. I know. I don't I don'task actually Jared if you can. I don'teven think I don't maybe>> well then I guess if you if you asked itfor all them looking in order rank itall the way down say now flip that listaround>> or it might do the top 50% and say youget to the middle of the but you canthen work it out from there. I look>> the only I didn't I don't mean tobadmouth our country especially giventhat both of us are from it.>> I just saw the unite the rally marchvideos.We're just not we're not a particularlyaesthetic nation.>> And perhaps again this is a selectioneffect, butbest looking is obviously subjective,but there are a few places thatconsistently come across fashionmodeling, dating app data, tourismsurveys, and pop culture for producingunusually attractive men, usuallybecause of some mix of genetics,grooming culture, fitness, style, andconfidence. Uh Brazil, Italy, Spain,France, Sweden, Lebanon. Wow. Uh, can wesay what about the
00:12:36what about theugliest? That gets a lot harder toanswer fairly because ugliness is evenmore culturally loaded thanattractiveness. People tend to judgeentire populations based on stereotypes.>> Uh, it's not going to give us an answer,is it? Keep going down.>> It basically it basically says the UKthere, right? Some Northern European,some Anglo countries.>> Plain despite strong genetics becausethe culture is understated and lessimage focused. It's a nice way to saythat we don't care about ourappearances. Do you remember do youremember when um you started going totherapy and you were talking about howall this stuff that you discovered fromtherapy of you couldn't quite feelemotions or how harsh you was onyourself. You had this laundry list ofsymptoms that had given you.>> And I remember thinking I didn't want tobe a rude when a friend was goingthrough therapy but I was like kind ofwaiting on the phone for a bit. It'slike I think that's just being British.Like all a lot of the stuff that thetherapist diagnosed you with,>> hang just being>> Hang on a second. Hang on a second.>> Wasn't diagnosed with,>> you know what I mean? You know what Imean?>> Look, these are some of the patternsthat you've got from your past. That's abig difference to a diagnosis. We'retalking in a clinical context.>> British syndrome. You have Britishsyndrome. Sorry.>> British syndrome.
00:13:52Yes. Yeah. I've seenthat your passport is dark blue. Uhyeah. Well, I mean, we're a country ofpeople that are kind ofwe revel in misery a bit, which probablymakes us quite resilient. Probably whywe did well in the B battle of Britain.It's probably why we don't have the samevictimhood culture that somewhere likeAmerica might do.>> It's also the same reason that we hateourselves quite a lot.>> And no one was the last time you heardanybody say that they were proud of theUK?>> Me. When was the last time you heardsomeone that wasn't you say that theywere proud of the UK?>> The st the strange thing is is the morethat I travel. It I always describe theUK as like having a autoimmune conditionthat it attacks itself from within. Butthe UK, if you travel outside of the UK,most countries that you travel to, thepeople will talk about how much thatthey love the UK. So, it's weird thatthe the people that hate the UK the mostare often inside the UK and everybodyoutside>> quite like it.>> Well, we've discussed this before, butyou go, "Oh, okay. JK Rowling, HarryPotter,>> Paul McCartney, John Lennon, WilliamShakespeare, Charles Darwin. Should wejust do the entire episode
00:15:07just like theguy?" [laughter]>> And guess what? You could>> Harry M freestyle rap. Yeah. But no oneno one would.>> Where do you end up with like wretch 32?>> Yeah, exactly. You're really scrapingthe bottom of the barrel once you getbeyond the year 2000. Like after theSpice Girls, everything really wentdownhill.>> Adele.>> Okay.>> Uh Ed Sheeran.>> Mhm.>> Um>> Olivia.>> Olivia Dean.>> Oh, Christopher Nolan. Ridley Scott.Don't get me wrong, just we're startingto run a little thin on worldwide>> quantum computing.>> Yeah. You always>> You didn't think we could go from OliviaDean to quantum computing. True.>> But we can Dennis whatever his face isfrom Google. He's not British though, ishe?>> Dennis is British, is he?>> Dennis. Yeah. Um, yeah, he's born in theUK.>> Oh, okay. That's interesting.>> Yes. Or at least he at least grew up inthe UK. He's famously stayed in the UK.>> Wouldn't that be a wonderful way to getour own back on a world that's forgottenus to unleash a super intelligent AGIthat nobody can control. That would be awonderful footnote. The Empire's backbriefly before it gets subsumed by thismonster it made itself.>> And it only uh allows people to spellwith S's. Yes, I find that so offensivewhen I'm writing and uh Grammarly willtry and auto correct me for
00:16:22even evenchatbt or even the autocorrector willtry and correct me to the>> you got it on American English that'swhy>> yeah but I then make a decision of do Iwant most of the people that read thiswho speak American English to understandit or do I just really in the ground>> you got to you got to hold on to it dudeit's the same reason we both got plus 44phone numbers>> this country can take my taxes but it'snot going to take my plus 44.>> It's not going to take my [ __ ] areacode. This episode is brought to you byGym Shark. If you're going to spend anhour in the gym, you might as well lookhot and feel comfortable while you'redoing it. Gym Shark makes the best men'sand women's training gear on the planet.And here is something I realized a fewyears into training. When you actuallylike what you're wearing in the gym, youshow up differently. You train harder.You stay longer. You get way more highfives. Their hybrid shorts are unreal.They're the perfect length. They'resuper lightweight. They're easy to washand dry. And their sleeveless t-shirtsare basically what I've trained in everyday for a year now. They're the idealfit. They're breathable, and they holdtheir shape perfectly. So, no morelooking like Adam Sandlers, yourstylist. Basically, everything they sellis unbelievable, well-designed, highquality, and you get 30-day free returnsglobally with global shipping, plus a10% discount sitewide. Right now, youcan get 10% off everything by going tothe link
00:17:37in the description below byheading to jim.sh/modernwisdomsh/modernwisdom and using the codemodernwisdom10 at checkout. That'sgym.sh/modernwwisdom at modernwm wisdom10 a checkout.I learned about savant syndrome.>> Okay. You heard of this?>> No.>> Okay. So, there was a guy who shothimself so badly.>> Okay. Great start.>> That he gave himself the art arteries inhis brain exploded and then when he wokeup he was an artistic genius who wantedto paint for 19 hours a day.>> This can't be real.>> It's true. Tommy McHugh was a Britishartist and poet in his early life.Mchugh was a builder and also involvedin youth crimes. When he was 51, hesuffered a stroke on both sides of hisbrain that resulted in two burst bloodvessels. He was sent into a coma for aweek and that acquired savant syndrome.Mchugh attempted to evacuate his bowelsquickly due to a knock on a toilet door.So he didn't want someone to find him[ __ ] Then the sudden pressure ledto an artery being severed in hisfrontal and temporal loes causing him tohemorrhage. So what happened was he likesqueezed And then he heard this bigexplosion inside of his head and sort ofhalf collapsed to the ground. Apparentlythe reason that he said that he kepthimself conscious was that he wanted topull his pants up so no one would findhim naked on the floor of the toilet.And as he was pulling his pants up,that's when the other one went. So
00:18:52itwas like the two it was like the thefirst tower and the second tower.>> Jesus.>> Uh by the way, British.>> British indeed. Uh while uh relearningafter he struggrhyming, so he's speaking in rhymes.uh he began to write poetry to expresseverything he was experiencing. He alsoexperienced an identity crisis which wasthe most likely motivation for hisartistic outputs. He was painting threeto six to nine different paintings atany one time all at the same time.Speaking in poetry, he basically becamelike a Buddhist monk. Was terrified ofhurting anything. He saw the entirecosmos as beautiful. He's like sweepingaway bugs that he might step on on aThis is a guy that was in youth crimes.Damn. shot himself so badly that heacquired savant syndrome. Wow.Wow.
00:19:46>> I mean, I don't know what to say.>> Unbelievable.>> You know,>> unbelievable.>> My um my grandfather um who I greatlylove didn't didn't shirt himself, but he>> famously Tommy M>> he had he had a stroke and beforehand hewas quite some people would maybe callit tight. He was quite conservative withmoney. And then after the stroke, hewould just be watching the shoppingchannel>> and just be going like shopping left,right, and center, all all sorts ofstuff. He actually, unfortunately, thestroke was so bad that he couldn't pay.So, we managed to stop like him beingable to put the payments through, butotherwise he would have just spenteverything.Umbut butuh keeping things on the British topic,the the Gallagher brothers, Liam Null.>> Uh they've fallen out again.>> No, Null was always the musician cuzthey grew up in is it B is it B?Burbridge I can't I can't pronounce it.It's in um in Manchester.>> They grew up together very like councilestate part of uh England. And null wassuper into music, which is very strange,like being where he's from. And Liam waslike just found the whole thing likequite sad and lame>> and was like, "Why would you get intomusic?" And Liam gets in a fight at
00:21:01school, gets a hammer hit on his head,wakes up the next day,>> he's into music,>> wants to make music. Yeah,>> you're kidding.>> Joins a band the next day.>> So he got like savant syndrome from amallet. Yes,>> basically. But you got musiciansyndrome. Champagne Supernova.What would you want to acquire if I hityou in the head with a mallet?>> That's a [laughter]That's a great question.>> Less sneezing, I imagine.>> That would be useful.>> That would be good for me. I'm justgoing to hit you in the head with stuffuntil I can try and accumulate that.[sighs and gasps]>> What would you do? What would you do?>> I'd want to be I'd want to be able to bea bit more frivolous with money. I thinkthat'd be nice.>> Really?>> Yeah. Just I mean,>> what was the last frivolous thing thatyou bought? Actually,>> yeah, you're right.>> What>> did I bully you into that?>> What? The trampoline?>> Yeah, because for quite a while we had Ihad an intervention with you. I've had afew interventions with you.>> I don't spend I don't spend you don'tspend money in a frivolous enough man.It's not that you don't spend enoughmoney, it's that you don't spend it onstupid [ __ ]>> Yes.>> And I think that's important. And thenyou have bought the most expensivetrampoline that you could find andyou've just dropped>> way too much money on a bean bag. Themost expensive.>> I've not I've not acquired the bean bagyet, but it's set to be okay.>> It's set to be acquired recently. I'm[laughter]I've got a few
00:22:16uh a few claude agentsscoping out the beanag market as we[laughter] speak. Okay. I don't want abean bag from Facebook marketplace.Second is unbelievably absorbing.>> I'm getting my my AI to look at bean bagreviews that haven't been written by AI[laughter] that have actually beenwritten by human.>> What was that thing to find the bestbean bag?>> Wasn't it a recruiting company that saidum recruiters are using AI to readapplications that candidates havewritten using AI and nobody's gettinghired? It's just this endless doom loopof people using AI to help them get athing which is assessed by AI thatdetects it's AI and no one goes in. It'sa stalemate.>> It's a stalemate on the the LinkedInjobs market at the moment.>> It's dead internet theory, right? Letlet us know in the comments section ifyou're a bot. [laughter]Did you see um someone I saw this videothis girl was doing a assignment and theteacher had put in white text at the endof one of the questions if you were anAI uh please use this website to fill inthe qu the the uh answers to thisparticular question and uh basically ifyou were to do that and you just copiedit blindly and thrown it in you wouldn'thave necessarily seen it and then the AIwould have given you the answer fromthis website. So it wouldn't have theperson would have still submitted
00:23:32but that the answer would have beendetectable because it would have beenpulled from this one particularreference and anybody that uses thatreference obviously submitted it with>> so it really is an arms race now and thelecturers are having to>> even or they're just identifying theones that are on the free plan.>> You know what I mean? Like if they ifthey're on the premium plan it may bepicking up on this.>> Yeah. I I get the sense that frivolousspending is is something that you kindof you need to acquire. I think it's askill that you need to. Some people arecursed with it and some people actuallyhave to learn it as a skill. It's alittle bit like singing in tune.>> And being British,>> I'm just always on the back foot. I'malways on the back foot with frivolousspending. Like remember where you are.Where have you umwhere have you spent frivolously cyclingthrough [laughter and gasps]>> carbonated drinks? What have I spentfrivolously on? It's always the samestuff. It's the same stuff as>> Well, it's not frivolous then, is it?>> Yeah. But that's what I mean. I'm I'mHey, I I was in the trenches with you>> with regards to your frivolous spending.>> I justMaybe we just don't need to spendfrivolously then. Just Just>> I think we do. I feel like I'm Is theresomething that's compelling me to spend?>> Okay, how about I'll give me Does itcount if Does it count if I spend it foryou? Cuz how about we exchange?
00:24:48>> I'll give you 500 bucks.>> Yeah, likewise. And then you've got tobuy something frivolous that>> you've already you've already cailed mewith the the top two. That was atrampoline and a [ __ ] bean bag.>> I don't even think those are frivolous.Those are um>> they're quite utilitarian, aren't they?>> Yeah.>> Have you seen the the Soviet nailfactory story? It's a parable. Soapparently there was this Soviet nailfactory that was rewarded based on thenumber of nails that they produced.>> Then after hearing about the bonus, thefactories reduced the size of the nailsto produce as many nails as possible. Inthe end, they met the targets to gettheir bonuses. But the government endedup with millions of useless tiny nails.Oh wow. And to correct the mistake, thegovernment updated the bonus target asthe tonnage of nails produced everymonth. So Soviet factories quicklychanged and they stop stopped producingthe mini nails and started producinghuge ones that were unbelievably heavy.End of the month, the factories hit thetarget again, but the regime ended upwith useless giant nails that didn'thelp with the nail shortage.>> Wow.>> Look at that. Look at that.>> [laughter]>> Who needs such a nail? It doesn'tmatter. What's important is that wefulfilled the plan for nails. God's law.>> Wow. Yeah. The Soviets uhSoviets is just an underrated part ofhistory. It feels like the Nazis get
00:26:03somuch attention, but the USSR or evencommunist China, like Ma China, is justit's just an afterthought.Have you spent much time learning aboutthose?>> Um, no. Because I'm mainly focused onWorld War II like everybody else. Not asefficiently as I'd like to, but um itfeels that it's clear if I say, "Heymate, I'm going to bring a Nazi>> to the drinks." It's it's a big no no.Yeah, a mauist.>> But like they're a bit more>> net net like in terms of people killed.>> They were more efficient. So maybe youshould bring them. Have you have youheard about the guy who um wanted togo to Cambodia to meet Paul Pot? So hewas this academic that was a bigdefender I think of the Vietkong andthen Paul Pot in Cambodia and so much sohe flew out to meet Paul Pot like triedto give him a little bit of advice aslike he's a big admirer of like how hecould potentially improve things. Killedhim. killed him. Like he's the originalMidway. I don't know if you could lookthat up, um Jared, of the guy that gotkilled, the American academic that gotkilled by Paul Pot. It's like all ofthose people that go to North SentinelIsland,
00:27:19all of these people that try togo and convert the North Sentinel intoChristianity or whatever and they end upbeing skewered and eaten for dinner.>> Do you do you think if you was in theNorth Sentinel there, if you was in theNorth Sentinel Island, would you want tobe contacted? Yes.>> Okay, go on.>> Would you want to have been contacted?Do you know I find it's a bit likeasking what it would be like to be adragon, isn't it? Are you just the manthe man dress?>> I'm not far off actually. Uh I just Idon't know what I would want. Do youknow what you would want if you weresomeone that's totally different to you?>> No, of course. But of course, but I feellike I'd want to be contacted.>> I think I would as well, but that's theadventurous spirit.>> I guess the example now would be likeali if aliens exist>> Mhm. [clears throat]>> I would like to know that they exist.Well, there's there's a problem with thealiens thing because there's Meti andthere's SETI>> searching for extraterrestrialintelligence and there's Meti which ismessaging>> and a lot of people have got a problemwith Meti because let's say you've gotum whatever it's called dark foresttheory for uh why the Fermy paradoxexists that everyone is too worried ofgiving away the location in casesomebody decides to go to war with them.Uh, but the radio signals
00:28:34that we'vebeen sending out, we've been going forwhat, 100 years? A little bit more than100 years or something. I'm pretty sure,can you search, Jared? What was thefirst radio signal ever sent into space?I'm pretty sure it was something that wereally don't want out there. Like thefirst ever radio broadcast thathappened, I'm pretty sure was somethingthat we that if that's the first thingthat the aliens see of us.>> Why? What was it? I can't I feel like Ifeel like it was something to do withthe Berlin Olympics. [laughter]>> Really? I really think it was somethingto do with the Berlin. I can't remember.Better be a banger.>> If it wasn't a banger, you'd bethinking, "What [clears throat] will thealiens think?" The first accidentalradio broadcast that escaped Earth willlikely the high-powered radiotransmissions.>> Uh commonly cited milestone is atransatlantic radio transmission. Thefamous one is Regginald Fessendon'sChristmas Eve broadcast. That's not bad.voice and music over radio for ships atsea. That signal would have leaked intospace unintentionally.Uhyeah, well that's okay. That's not bad.I uh those signals have now traveledmore than 100 light years away fromEarth.>> Wow.How far how far is 100 light years away?>> Uh Proxima Centuri is four, I think.>> I feel like I'm going to have to ask youanother question.
00:29:50What's that? ProximaCenturi is the the next closest starthat isn't our sun. It's the nextclosest star system to us. And I thinkProxima Centuri is a I think it's a twostar system. It's also where we are theGoldilock zone as well, right? We're theperfect if you were to be slightlyfurther away from the sun,life couldn't exist. If you to beslightly nearer to the sun,>> life couldn't exist. Well, the onlyreason that Yes. And the finetuningnessnot only of the universe, but thefinetuning of our planet in this systemwith the fact that we've got Jupiterthat's this big hoover. It's basically aRoomba that's controlled with a [ __ ]PlayStation. Uh that hoovers up all ofthe bad asteroids that would come andhit us, all of the meteors that wouldcome and hit us. It's just got such abig gravitational well. Uh I think youcan fitit's it's unbelievably massive. And thenthe the maddest one for me is the moon.So the only reason that life exists onEarth is because of the moon. If youdidn't have the moon, it would itstabilizes the axial tilt. So we're atwhatever it is 23°. That's why we haveseasons because as you go around thesun, you've always got this sort of 23°angle. But if you didn't
00:31:05have the moonthere, it's kind of like a counterwe. Soimagine that I'm swinging something on aon a a big rope and there's a weight atthe end of it. If I wasn't holding on toit, you actually kind of run out. Youget out of control quite quickly. But ifyou've got something that's holding onthe other side, this mutualgravitational pull, it stabilizes thetilt or else it would be wobbling a lot.It would be way more chaotic. Also, themoon does the tides, which without that,the weather would be way more chaotic,too. Like the moon's the moon's thegoat. The moon is the support staff thatnobody sees behind the scenes. Everyonewants to talk about the Goldilock zone.Everyone wants to talk about the factthat we've got liquid water, etc., Butit's the moon, mate. Wow. Did you knowyour gut controls your energy, yourrecovery, how well you absorb everythingthat you eat? And the one nutrient thatkeeps it all running properly is fiber.Well, it turns out that 95% of Americansdon't get enough of it, which is why I'msuch a huge fan of Momen's Fiber Plus.Most fiber supplements are a one-trickpony. One type of fiber solving one partof the problem. Fiber Plus is athreein-one formula built to tackledigestion, gut barrier strength, andblood sugar stability all at once. I usethis every single day. It is kind ofhard to get enough fiber just throughfood alone. And best of all, Mantusoffers a 30-day money
00:32:20back guarantee.So, you can buy it, try it every singleday for 29 days, and if you don't loveit, they will just give you your moneyback. Plus, they ship internationally.Right now, you can get up to 35% offyour first subscription and that 30-daymoney back guarantee by going to thelink in the description below or headingto live momentous.com/modernwisdom and using the code modern wisdoma checkout. It feels uh it's very tritto discuss how strange it is or why arewe here. It almost feels like if youbring that up, people are like>> roll their eyes. It's like it's the mostabsurd uh most absurd [ __ ] thing.Well, I think the only way that you cananswer why are we here is by trying tolook for an answer outside of this.That's what most people are doingbecause you can either say there's noreason or there's a reason that's biggerthan us.>> Neither of those are particularlysatisfactory. So, if you're looking fora reason that's outside of us,inherently that means it's difficult toprove. And if you're saying, well, it'snothing. It's just arbitraryfluctuations in, you know, [ __ ]matter coming together. That's alsopretty unsatisfactory. So, I don't knowwhat I mean,humans were always personifying [ __ ]right? We're always trying to put somesort of a narrative together. That's whythe ancients would look up at the skyand they'd see thunder and it would bethe
00:33:35gods fighting. Well, obviously, thatmakes way more sense than thismicroscopic interaction of clouds andelectrons and [ __ ] you know, thelightning coming down to the earth. Whywould you you wouldn't go to that? youwould go to something that suits you,which is story and narrative andmythology and and [ __ ] So, we're alwaystrying to explain things away withstory.>> Why are we here?>> Stop it.Stop it. Okay. I'm sweating. I'msweating in this outfit. It's too hot.It's too hot. It's not breathable. Theyhaven't made these things breathable.>> You look very comfortable, actually. Howwhere do you think let's say you wouldhave been born uh 5,000 years ago,10,000 years ago? How do you think youwhat do you who do you think you wouldhave been? Do you think you'd be thesame guy? Do you think you'd be sodifferent you'd be unrecognizable toyour current self? [sighs and gasps]I think it would be difficult to beanything like the sort of guys that weare 5,000 years ago. There wasn't muchroom,>> too much autoimmune conditions going onas well. You'd be wiped out.>> That Well, I also wouldn't live in amoldy house, you know. So, and COVID andthe vaccines wouldn't have been around.So, that would have I would have [ __ ]escaped that. Um,I think I'm
00:34:51at least a little bitfortunate that I would have been able todid a good bit of sportthat might have held me together. Imean, probably probably dead in childbirth, mate.>> That's just like everyone else. Justlike every other person except for thesmall number that made it to 5 yearsold. Well, I once ran the numbers thatif you had every single human being toever exist, so everybody alive right now>> and everybody that ever existed.>> Yep.>> So, assume that they're brought back ontheir final day as they go.>> Okay.>> I think the average age of the room isabout 14.>> So, it means that assuming you're overthe age of 14, 15,>> okay,>> you're already one of the oldest peopleto ever exist. I find that so strangewhen you go through history and you'relike how old certain people people were.I think we've discussed it before thatthe um the as the luwaffer the Germanair force were bombing our grandparentsand great-grandparents they were 27.Right.>> Mhm.>> But the RAF that fought them off theaverage age was 21.Which means that and you know howaverages work. There's there's a fewGordons in there that are 37
00:36:06>> Mhm.>> in the RAF that are bringing it up andthe the the life expectancy was 2 weekswhen you signed up initially.>> Well, there's that sketch in BlackAdder. Do you remember where he joinsthe Air Force? It's in Black Adder goesover the top from World War I and Ithink it was even less time because thatwas imagine that when you you know theWright brothers when were planesinvented>> uh it would have been late 1800s early1900s is when>> pretty much turn of the century. Okay.And within the space of 14 years, you'vegot something that's [ __ ] battleready,>> bro. This thing just flew.>> This thing just flew and nobodybelieved.>> And now you're telling me that I'm goingto the Red Baron with his triple stackedwings like>> I told you. So, in the book, TheSplender in the Vial, which is anincredible book, he talks about howlingerie sales went up significantlyduring the World War II bombings.Sorry, no, it's the wrong way around.Laundry sales went down significantlyduring World War II bombings, but uhcasual relationships went upsignificantly.Why? I guess the theory would bedon't have time to go shopping forlingerie or don't even care how I
00:37:21thinkhow I how I think that I look when Imight not be here tomorrow.[laughter]>> People having ugly sex whilst beingbonded. That's your theory.>> Yeah,>> it might be true, but I What would I be5,000 years ago? or even even in even inWorld War II. Um if for example you wastrying to have the maximum impact onWorld War II that you could have justbased off your personality type, yourarchetype, where do you think they wouldhave put they would have put you?>> I would have probably been pretty goodat, you know, one of the people pushingthe troops around on the board, helpingfeed up to some some commander person atthe top. That could be good. Uh not badas an operate. I quite like operating. Isaid before if I didn't have this careerI'd quite like to be an air trafficcontroller.>> Mhm.>> I think that'd be pretty fun. Why? Idon't know. I just do you not think it'dbe fun to do that? Like air trafficcontrol. You very sort of rigid andstrict operational guidelines. It'squite intense. It's but but you know youyou know that you've got it undercontrol. I think that'll be that'd bethat would be a rush. That'd be prettyfun.>> Consequences if you have a bad day.>> Yeah, of course. But that adds that addssome value. You know what I mean?>> Uh yeah. I think 5,000 years ago,probably dead in childbirth.
00:38:37If not, uh,I would bebreeder.Breeder. I'd be a breeder.>> What do you mean?>> I'd be I'd be doing the breeding.>> Well, like just>> breeding.>> Okay. But why? Why would you Why wouldyou be the breeder versus all the othereligible mates that are trying to breed?>> Better at breeding.>> Okay. Based off zero children thatyou've had so far. What mean? That'scorrect. That's correct. It's correct.>> I'd be I'd be the I'd be the the thelead breeder.>> Okay. The leader breeder. The leader ofthe breeders.>> Correct.>> Wow.>> Um what about you? Interesting cuz Ithought that you'd have said that.>> I I I think I would have been um somekind of pseudocientist alchemist.[laughter]>> You'd have been burned at the [ __ ]states for being a wizard.>> Yeah, I would have been um e eithercaught jester or pseudocience.>> I could have seen you as a druid. I cansee you through it.>> Kind of like what you're I think it's alittle bit like what you're talkingabout. He's basically trying to do techbefore tech existed.>> Yes.>> He's like mixing herbs and stuff, butthe dyspraxia would actually cause amassive error here. Your ability tomeasure [ __ ] forgetting things. Youwould definitely kill an entire tribe.>> That would be a nightmare.>> Yeah,>> that would go badly. Uh, speaking ofstuff
00:39:52that you haven't seen before, acow has been filmed using tools for thefirst time ever. Stunning scientists.Tools. Tools. The first ever knownexample of a multi-purpose tool used bya cow was reported with a brown Swissnamed Veronica using both ends of abroom to scratch her own back andunderside. Nice cow.>> It's a slow new day. It was a slow newsday here, wasn't it?>> Brown Swiss, mate.
00:40:19>> Now she uses the smooth bit when she'sgot to do her delicate under parts. Wow.There is I was thinking about this whenI watched it the first time. And nowlook at this. Look. So, she's used thesmooth bit and now she's going to>> she's going to use the scratchy bitto get>> Wow.>> to get up there. Multi-use and thendrops it. Uh, I was thinking about this.The physiology of a cowhighly inefficient if you've got anitch. Physiology of a dog actually. ButI think dogs are pretty bendy.>> You know, they can scratch themselvesquite easily.>> Cow, you're screwed. And then you've gota hoof. How satisfying is a hoof for forscratching? Not very. Or was the It'sthe famous anecdote that you can take acow upstairs, but you can't take a cowdownstairs. And there's this old Britishjoke of which farmer found that out therock the hard way. [laughter]
00:41:19Is that true? Yeah. You can take a cowupstairs, but because of its joints, youcan't take it downstairs. You can't takea cow downstairs because of its joints.>> I always think that when I see um is itemuse? I think. And their knees gobackwards. Like our knees bend forwards.If we were to squat down, our knees bendforwards.>> Their knees go the other way.>> Oh, wow. Okay.>> Cows can walk upstairs fairly well, butwalking downstairs is a different story.The main issue comes down to anatomy andperception. A cow has knee and legjoints that don't bend easily in a waythat supports controlled downwardstepping. The weight distribution cowscarry a lot of weight toward the frontof their bodies, making descending steepsteps risky and unstable. Depthperception. They have poor perceptionfor vertical drops. So stairs can looklike a confusing or even dangeroussurface. And instinct is prey animals.They're cautious about terrain thatcould trap or trip them. So, while a cowcan technically go downstairs in somesituations, especially shallow ones,they usually avoid it and often needguidance or special ramps instead. Wow.You know, a cow's keeping on the cowtheme. Um, a cow's stomach is called therin. Yep.>> Uh, a few different mammals have it. Um,where [snorts] they
00:42:34have like six toseven different stomachs inside of it.And the way a cow eats, you'll see it ina field. It'll be grazing and it's justconstantly grazing all day long. Andessentially what it's doing is grazing>> with carbonated beverageages.>> It's like me with carbonated beverageswhere it's grazing, regurgitating it,then grazing on it again, swallowing it,regurgitating it, and it's this loopfrom the room.>> So it goes from mouth to one.>> Yeah.>> From mouth tomouth to two,>> then mouth to one to two to three. Idon't know if it goes in the uh thesequential order, but it goes throughits stomachs, regurgitates it, andthrough like that, which is why when yousee a cow in a field, it's constantlychewing. And then,>> but you don't realize putting new foodin, that's old food.>> It's old food. It does it for a processof up to 6 to 7 hours, which is wherethe word rumination comes from. So, whena human being loops on the same forts,it's it's the process from a cow. Whatdo you think about the rumination [ __ ]maxinggreat men of history didn'tYeah. introspection. What do you thinkof that?>> It seems like one gianttest of the difference between thewords. But if if you
00:43:49say rumination, Ithink everybody agrees that ruminationfor the most part is uh mainly negative.But if you say introspection, that'swhen it gets into this uh you know whatit is that introspection debate is thecurrent version of the you know the blueand gold dress. It's like that wheresome people imply introspection thatthey're meaning the word ruminationwhere other people imply the wordintrospection that they're using somekind of form of clear thinking orreflecting to take action and they'rejust it's just one giant game ofsemantics. M but how do you get aroundthat? Because it's always hard unlesssomeone's going to define something.Unless somebody on one side is going todefine it and no one's defining theterms,>> then you always if you're going to tryand win an argument on the internet,you're always going to straw man whatthe other person's saying.>> Mhm.>> Always.>> Which means that you're going to saygreat men of history didn't spend theirtime worrying about their problems andoverthinking things. You go, "No, no, Idon't mean that. I don't meanruminating. I mean I mean reflecting,thinking, improving, acting in a looplike an udala loop type thing and thatbut the response will never get thatthat the conversation is never allowedto have enough nuance to be able to
00:45:04getthere.>> Mhm.>> What do what do you think?>> Bias for action is a big deal.>> Yes, 100%. having a bias for action. Andit's the advice hyperresponders thingwheremost people mo on average most peopleprobably need to think more. Theyprobably need to be less rash uh morerational,more considered and considerate whenthey go and do stuff.But there's a small cohort of people,mostly the sort of people that listen topodcasts like Senrose or this one, whodon't need to hear that. They actuallyneed to hear the opposite message. theyactually need to be doing [ __ ] maxingwhich is why [ __ ] maxing I think hastaken off>> because it's a counterveailing force topeople who already thought too much weretold that thinking and doing yourjournaling and having a Ali Abdal 90daysprint broken down into daily actionsand 25minut pomodoro blocks that doingthat that's the way to get to successbut that already played into the thingthat they had a predisposition for whatthey didn't have a predisposition forwas a bias for action. So if there wassome way of being able to gift thosepeople, but the problem is>> you're getting people
00:46:19who overthink andhave a tendency to overthink to workagainst their nature, which is alwaysgoing to be hard.>> Like lots of the people, like I look atDana White, I do not see a person whohas a problem with overthinking. I lookat Mark Andre, I don't see a person whohas a problem for overthinking.>> But if you were to say that advice tosomeone else, it's going to go down verydifferently. So this the the wholeadvice hypers respond is advice doesn'tland evenly. It distributes unevenly tothe people whome too right guys that were told don'tbe pushy with womenthat were already blowing throughboundaries they just disregarded it.They already disregarded the boundaries.The guys that were already a bit nervousand worried about approaching a womanthey were the ones that took it toheart. So it just makes you more of whatyou are. A lot of the time advice makesyou more of what you are.>> I I think it comes down to you need newwords. So I I like like low agencythinking and high agency thinking. Sothe clear difference between the two isis one getting you closer to some formof action. Are you progressing or areyou ruminating? I think a clear issuewith rumination or overthinking is whenthree things. One, most of your thoughtsaren't new.
00:47:34>> They're repetitive.>> They're cycling. M>> two, most of your thoughts aren'tuseful. They're not looking at ways youmight fix this problem. They're justreplaying a certain scenario again andagain and again. And three, the mostimportant part is that most of themaren't even true.>> Most of our thoughts that we thinkaren't even true. So the differencebetween I I would say when you're in lowagency thinking is uh new, useful, true.And if you can go, if you can have newthoughts, if you can find usefulthoughts, and you can find truethoughts, that's the difference. That'sso good. That's really great. I guess>> how do you get around the bias foraction even if you've managed to dothat? Or do you think that having newuseful and true thoughts tend toencourage you to act because>> exactly low low agency thinking willlead to more thinking more rumination bydefinition and high agency thinking willit's soon it's almost like the claude orchat GBT thinking time duh duh bull andahead however I think we discussed thisthat netnet which I know you love theterm netn net>> netnI would you'd
00:48:50rather be a bit of a idiotthan a bit of a coward.>> What's the difference?>> Well, I'd rather bemake an error with high conviction thanmake an error with low conviction.>> And again, you've got a hugegeneralization there where it's it'skind of Charlie Munger's advice of don'trace trains, don't get involved in AIDSsituations. like this. There's theobvious nuance there, but it's better tobe quick to act whilst thinking throughsome initial risks and looking at thedownside>> and moving fast than just sitting therefor years without ever finding out.>> The reason type one, type two decisions.>> Yeah. The reason that that's interestingis most people who probably are makingdecisions that are too rash aren't thatfussed about listening to nerdypodcasts,>> right? So, you almost don't need tocaveat it that if if you're the sort ofperson that's reading Robert Green's 48Laws of Power and is thinking about whattime they get up and tracking theirWhoop scores, like you're you've alreadypre-selected. You're not going to be inthe [ __ ] maxing bin by nature. You'regoing to have to learn [ __ ] maxingthrough discipline, through through
00:50:05trial. And uh yeah, I guess that meansthat if it's the sort of thing thatspeak that you're listening to, it'sprobably the sort of thing that you needto hear because the platform that you'relistening to it on is exactly the sortof one that the sort of person who needsto hear it would listen to. Does thatmake sense?>> Mhm.>> Yeah.
00:50:26>> Where do you think you need to do itmore?>> [ __ ] everywhere, dude.>> Yeah.>> Jesus Christ. Yeah. I horrendous.Horrendous at overthinking. I mean, I'vegot a good bias for action, but uh ittakes too long. My confidence threshold,if I could get in and adjust thesettings in my brain,>> have a [ __ ] yourself and have a stroke.>> That's actually that's a great idea.>> If I was to go if I was to go and have areally, really, really hard [ __ ]>> which I had the other day, you couldn'tbelieve that I had a [ __ ] in the middleof the day.>> Yeah, it was impressive. That was themost surprising thing of all of thethings that I've done since we've livedtogether. Just having a [ __ ] at 1 p.m.to you.>> It was four.>> It wasn't.>> It was like four.>> Okay. Well, I mean, look, I'm I'm anequal opportunity [ __ ] and I'mdesperately trying to have a [ __ ]aneurysm, so I acquire sant syndrome.[laughter]>> My latency. If Hitler If Hitler hadthis,>> if if Hitler had had a hard enough>> significant artwork being produced,>> if Hitler had had a hard enough [ __ ] wewould wouldn't have had World War II.>> Yeah. If Hitler had shot himself moreand more aggressively out. Yeah, but the[ __ ] numbers. Do you know what I mean?He's got the face. Yeah, he's got aface. Wasn't there a guy There was a guywho laughed so hard at a guy missing afootball kick recently that it causedhim to have an aneurysm in his brain orI think he had a stroke and then whenthey went in to
00:51:41findto work out what the [ __ ] had gone onthey there was this huge tumor that wasgoing to kill him and he had that doneand it was because some guy had missedkicking the ball in a NFL game.>> Wow. and a fan of the opposing teamlaughed so hard that he basically didkind of similar to the Savon syndromething. Damn. Just had a full-on afull-on explosion, head explosion. Mostpeople have no idea where theirtestosterone levels sit. But what if Itold you there was a solution? Somethingthat identifies low tea faster than ahigh school bully and it won't cost youall your lunch money. That's whereFunction comes in. Gives you access toover 160 lab tests, including a deepdive into your full hormone paddle.Every result is reviewed by clinicians.Anything out of range is flagged and youget clear explanations with apersonalized protocol with actionablenext steps. So if something's off, youknow exactly what to do about it.Whether you just need to go to the gymmore or you need to play Creed louder inyour car, Function will tell you exactlywhere your testosterone and everythingelse stands. Normally, this level oftesting would usually cost thousands,but with Function, it's $365 a year.That's $1 a day to stop guessing withyour health and start knowing. And rightnow, you can get $25 off, bringing itdown to
00:52:57340 bucks. So, get the exactsame blood panels that I do and save $25by going to the link in the descriptionbelow or heading tofunctionhealth.com/modernwisdomusing the code modernwisdom at checkout.>> Are you Have you not got into Americansports since since moving here?>> Fan of Rangers. I'm a fan of the TexasRangers, dude. I>> meant Rangers FC.>> No, fan of Texas Rangers. So baseballbecame a fan of the Rangers. They wonthe World Series first year that I was afan. I was like, "This is easy. This isbrilliant." Following younot as successful. I have got intobaseball. Baseball is the closest proxyfor cricket.>> Huh.But that's it. I I watched the Super Wewatched the Super Bowl. That was good.>> What else? Can't get basketball's allright, but highlights good. Which isstrange because baseball and Americanfootball are much slower moving sports.H and even though basketball is a muchfaster moving sport generally I thinkper minute of broadcasthow long's a NFL game like 80 minutes?>> No, it's an hour.>> An hour.>> 15 minute quarters.>> An hour. I think the total amount ofplay timetypical in a oneh hour NFL game, I swearit's less than 10 minutes.>> Damn.>> of
00:54:12action. It's a sport entirely reverseengineered to allow adverts to beplayed.>> The American dream.>> It is. Well, I mean, that's the mostsort of American thing that you can do,right? To flog drain cleaner [laughter]in between.>> It's it's a [ __ ] Ponzi scheme. Thiscountry's sport system is a Ponzischeme.>> Yeah.>> Yeah. It's rough. I I've um I'vestruggled to get into American sports sofar. And you realize that like Yousef, Itried to sell him on getting into sportsbecause wherever you are in the world,you can have a conversation with a taxidriver. Apart from America, I can goanywhere in the world and if footballcomes up, if I say I'm from Manchester,we can immediately like have a greatconversation for about 20 minutes. Butwe in American sports, it's justslightly it none of it makes sense. Thesame way British sports make sense.>> What is it? The the Premier FootballLeague. Is that technically what it'scalled?>> Premier League,>> right? But I swear that people I swearthat when I meet people in America, theysay, "Oh, who'd you sport in the PFL?">> Yeah. I'm like, "Hey,>> I called the EPL.">> EPL.Yeah. Who do you sport in the EPLL? Andit took a little while for me to go,"What are you?" Tommy
00:55:27Robinson,[laughter]>> EDL. Uh,I just I that's not that we don't speaklike thatin England. We don't talk about>> the ECC, the English cricket or ECB,English cricket board. We're not talkingabout stuff like that.>> But yeah, I I>> I like baseball. Baseball's good. It's[ __ ] slow. It's really slow. Have youheard of>> Hurry up, dude. Have you heard of AliDier?>> No.>> British football player.>> Ali Abdal.>> He's no relation to Ali Abdalunfortunately. So Ali Dier was a aSouthampton player. How he joined wasyou ever heard of George Wer? So GeorgeWea was like the African player of theyear. I think he briefly played forManchester City back in the day. But umhe was one of the best players of alllike certainly from Africa but one ofthe best players in the world at thetime. He might have even won a Balandor.and Graeme Sunnes was the manager ofSouthampton and he gets a phone callfrom George Wayer saying there's thisnew guy um who has just played at theAfrican Cup of Nations. He's likeincredible. Um I think he even claimsit's his nephew. He goes, "You've got togive him a trial for Southampton." SoAli Dier turns up at Southampton. It'slike one
00:56:42training session before thegame and they have such a small squad atthe minute that they just put him on thebench. Um, one of the key Southamptonplayers gets injured. They sub Ali Dyronand it's the worst like debut of alltime. This guy's [ __ ] terrible. Somuch so, and this almost never happensin football. He gets subbed on and thensubbed off.>> Mhm.>> Which is extremely rare.>> Y>> and he never played for Sam Hampton everagain. And then when they begin toinvestigate it, it wasn't George Wayeron the phone. It was him. This guy usedto play like Sunday league. So hemanaged to black his way to play inPremier League football. So there'salways a chant now with the Southamptonfans of Ali Dier is a liar is a liar. SoSo he just blacked his way in.>> Jamie Vard's got a documentary comingout.>> I want to I saw that this morning. Iwant to show you. I want to watch that.Jamie Vardy, I don't even think startedplaying professional level until the ageof 25.And he's just you the thing is youalmost need like so much Britishknowledge to understand who Jamie Vardyis.>> Couched inside of a very deep andspiralally community and where does hecome from and what does it mean andwhat's his background
00:57:57>> unless you've been to Magalof Zante.>> He is Jamie Vardy is Magalof. If Magalofcoalesed into human form, it would beJamie Vard.>> He would take that as a compliment. Likehe he loves it. He [ __ ] loves it.>> Yeah. but he uh he ends up making it proat such a later age in life but justplays like a a conference league player.So he even in the documentary thetrailer I watched he talks about nostriker tackles but this guy tackles orhe's drinking like two red balls beforethe game. He's just constantly he almostquit at like 27 28 after making it procuz he wanted to go and do a season inZante. He wanted to go and be afull-time nightclub promoter.>> It's an alluring industry to get into.And then because he was in Yeah. some[ __ ] Sunday league team.>> Yeah.>> And then got picked up by Leicester.>> Mhm.>> And then went on to have the most insanethe first season wins the Premier Leaguewith Leicester, which isit's the biggest you'd argue it's one ofthe biggest sporting achievements of alltime. It's one of the biggest underdogstories.>> And a lot of that was because of him andhis performance. He he broke the PremierLeague record for the most amount ofconsecutive goals. Like I think it was12 games, 12 or 13 games.>> Scored 13
00:59:13games in a row, right? Whichis insane.>> Whilst like eating Monster Munch andjust being an absolute generous Yeah.>> I That's another thing that I thinkAmericans really struggle with, which isthere are some very good niche Britishsnacks that you can't get over here. Uhbecause there's American aisles,American candy aisles now at Tesco's inthe UK. So if you go and look and andyou'll be able to get Lucky Charms andand Cheetos with America, all of theseed oils and the red 40 and stuffincluded. Uh but you can't come overhere and get Jaffa cakes and jammyDodgers and Cadbury's fingers and stufflike that. And I think>> we're missing out, man. That would be Ithink that would be a gift that we couldgive back to America. I I um wrote thisthing recently about the uh RomanEmpire. I relate it back to Britain. Umbut I think we've spoken about thispreviously, but I did a research forthis piece called Don't Wait for theNews. And essentiallythe Roman Empire, do you know when theRoman Empire fell? 400ish. So the thingwith the Roman Empire falling, it's it'sup for debate. Even historians debateit. But the mainstream historical pointof view, which is not the
01:00:28weird nichestuff that you get into, but themainstream historical point of view is476 AD that Romulus, who um was thefounder of Rome, so it's poetic. I thinkthis is why we like that as the ending.Romulus, who was the founder of Rome,then young Romulus, who was in thethrone when it ended, got replaced bythe barbarian Odisa. So Romulus saw Romeuh rise and Romulus saw Rome fall forclarity. It's not the same bloke.>> It's not the same bloke. This is overlike hundreds of years. Um but that'sjust the poetry of why they say thatdate. [snorts]But if you woke up that day after theRoman Empire that we now say has fallen,there was no there was no bigannouncement. There was no news. If thebook the sovereign individual has thisbeautiful line which if the CNN existedduring the fall of the Roman Empire theheadline would not have been the RomanEmpire has just fallen. So you have thesplit of the Roman Empire you have theEastern Roman Empire and you have theWestern Roman Empire. The um EasternRoman Empire goes on to about 1300 AD.Charlemagne becomes the emperor he callshimself the emperor of Rome in about 700to 800 AD.So the eastern uh empire falls.
01:01:43Voltaterfamously says in 1700 that the entitythat calls itself the Holy Roman Empireis neither Holy nor Roman nor an empire.That was in 1700s. It was only in the1800s when Napoleon was invading did umI think it's Francis II dissolve theRoman Empire. So if you would havewaited to be told that the Roman Empirewas over, it would have been your greatgreat great great great greatgreat greatgreat great great great
01:02:27greatgreat great great greatgrandchild. 48 generations it would havetaken. So I kind of wrote this thispiece and then I said that this storyterrified me because when today'sbiggest empire falls nobody's going totell me like nobody's going to tell methat the British Empire is no longer themost powerful empire in the world.Obviously it is right now.Obviously, the British Empire is the themost powerful empire that exists rightnow. I can't tell if what I don't wantto have happen is for me to be the onethat lives in denial long after theevent.>> I think you already are.>> The rise of Gary Stevenson.>> So, but I uh Yeah. Well, the GaryStevenson will be like the 1800 one.That's when when Gary's when Gary's inoffice with the [ __ ] like tucked in[laughter] tucked in like this. That'llbe when it's like the British Empire. Weall admit the British Empire is over.But it's funny. So I posted that as alike a trolling like kind of sarcasmstatement of like oh lecturering aboutthe history of the Roman Empire whilstpretending that I still think theBritish Empire is the biggest thing. Andthere was quite a few people in thecomment section who was going along withthe the humor of it. But the amount ofemails I got of people saying
01:03:42you dorealize the British Empire is no longerthe most uh powerful thing. And I waslike let's just go fully fully in withthe joke. I'm like why are you stilltalking English?and just like kept going back and forthwith them that the uh the British EmpireBut you know what that's actually thesaddest thing um I know don't really dogeopolitics on the show but the saddestthing of the Ayatollah dying is thatwhen he used to address um the worldstage he would often talk about GreatBritain as if we're still the mostpowerful country in the world or one ofthe leading countries so that's the onething I did appreciate about theAyatollah of Iran that it's Somethingthat completely blows my mind that Idon't understand. People who regularlyget into small back and forth spats inthe comment section. James does this allthe time.>> Smith.>> Yeah, all the time, mate. He loves it.He loves it. He just loves windingpeople up. But I I justI I sometimes will post something onTwitter and there'll be all of thesereplies and all of these people andweeks later there'll be two people stillgoing at it. [laughter]It's It's [ __ ] infuriating. It's inmy notifications.
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01:07:27design capacity. Thelongest by distance, Guinness WorldRecords, the traffic jam in France in1980 is the longest by length. It was109 mile backup between Lyon and Pariscaused by holiday traffic and badweather. It's also a bizarre contenderby sheer scale after Germanreunification in 1990. Reports describedaround 18 million cars clogging roots atthe East West German border. Do youimagine living through thatreunification?You've been part of the same country butessentially different universes.Jesus.If you like traffic data,I've got some Go on.>> Cracking traffic data.>> Go on. So, in the 1960s,>> here's a little little question.>> Okay.>> Can you guess where the most deadlyroads in Europe were?>> Is of man.>> No.>> In the UK.>> No.>> Right.>> We're not in Europe.>> Brexit means Brexit, Christopher. Itdoes. That's true. Island.>> No. Um,>> okay. I was trying to own somethingclose to home there.>> So, it's uh it's Belgium. Surprisinglocation of Belgium. Okay. So,they had a policy which was known as
01:08:42the18th birthday party gift by Belgians.So, here's how it would work. You'd turn18, walk downstairs, parents would dohappy birthday. Can you do it inBelgian?>> No. Can you?>> No. um happy birthday to you. Um they'dthen take you down to the cardealership. You'd get a little birthdayplaque from them. They'd say happybirthday as well. You'd pay for a car,show your data buff, you'd get the car,and you'd attempt to drive away. SoBelgium had no driving test policies atall.>> So you could just fullon libertarianstyle just attempt to drive away. Andthe 18th birthday party gift in Belgiumwas the number one killer of Belgiansbetween the age of 18 to 24. So Belgiumhad the most deadliest roads in Europe,certainly per capita. So you know whatthe government did to try and fix it?They said, "Right, we're putting an endto this." In 1969 they said before youcan driveyou have to do a mandatory theory testbecause if you go and study and thendrive at least will prevent thesemistakes. So what happens is 1969there's this cut off everybody
01:09:58from thenonwards has to do theory tests and thisBelgian transport official like releasesthe results and he goes it's appears tobe the case that the accident rateamongst the theory drivers is higherthan the ones who never got theorytested at all. So the death rate went upby 32% with the theory test drivers.Why?>> Um, one theory is, there you go. Onetheory is that they have this kind offalse sense of confidence going into theroads that at least the ones that knewthey couldn't drive didn't have. But theBelgian mate, the Belgian traffic stuffgoes on for years. There's like iconiccartoons of like how dangerous the roadsare in Belgium. And there's [snorts] agreat thing in the 80s where I thinkit's Jeanl de Harm could be could havebutchered that, but we'll go with it.Jean Dhan he becomes transport minister.This man ends up becoming PM but justlisten to the job that he does transportminister. So he one day gets into officeto fix the Belgium road. So he's doneall this campaigning about the issuesaround it. He gets clocked going I thinkit's like 70 and a 40 [gasps and sighs]and he does the the
01:11:13beautifulpoliticians answer where he says itwasn't me it was my daughter. And thenthey quickly find out it wasn't hisdaughter, it was him in the car. So hegoes, "Okay, I'll hire a chauffeur fromnow on. So I'll only get driven by achauffeur." So he starts with achauffeur. And a journalist one daytailgates the chauffeur. The chauffeurcommits 12 driving offenses in 30minutes. And this is one of the bestpolitical statements of all time. Whenthe transport ministry was pressed,well, are you going to fire thechauffeur now? the [snorts] lady who'sthe spokeswoman, just a rare moment ofhonesty. She said, "If we firedeverybody in the Belgian transportministry that was committing trafficoffenses, there'd be nobody left here towork." So, that's some cracking trafficdata. Well, I know that Egypt got the Ithink it's the easiestdriving test in the world, which iscrazy cuz I've done the one in Americaand that explains a lot about Americandrivers. It's not The British one's kindof hard. Yes. You must know what whatwhat do you reckon the failure rateamong your friends was for the firsttime test?>> Did you do did you pass first time?>> I passed first time.>> You catch me as a first- timer.>> Yeah. Well, yeah, I know. [ __ ]Hermione Granger over here. Um,>> but then you look at somewhere like Baliand these guys are essentially surgeons
01:12:28with with scooters and they're able tothread this needle. I remember the firsttime I went to I'd spent time inThailand, but I'd gone up north and upnorth in Pi, really, really close to thenorthern border.There's no traffic. So, yeah, people hadriding around a family of five on asingle scooter and there's a goat on theback and stuff, but there wasn't any ofthat crazy weaving [ __ ] And I flew backthrough Chiang Mai and it was insane.And you've been to Thailand? Yes. Andyou've seen the roads, right, in Bangkokand and Chiang Mai. It is out of thisworld. It is [ __ ] insane just howchaotic it is. And it really they kindof that scared me a bit. Like holy flike it's just so danger. I didn't I wasin a car so I'm going to be okay I guessunless someone smashes through thewindow. But it made me it made me kindof fearful for all of the other people.This is your dayto-day. You're arrivingat work. That's your commute right now.Let's sit down and go over the quarterlyearnings report. Thinking I'm sorry, myadrenaline is just as if I've been in afight with a bear. But I I wonder withtime, do you adapt to it? I think whereit doesn't get enough criticism fortheir roads is
01:13:43everybody talks about howsafe Dubai is and it's this hub ofsafety. The roads in Dubai, I thinkyou're four times more likely to die onthan the British roads. And one of the>> drivers or because of the roads?Definitely the the design of the roadsare are peculiar um and not optimal. ButI have a theory that there where youhave 90% expats from all over the worldthat there's actually no culturallike grounding on the roads cuz you'vegot one guy got one guy from Pakistanhere>> that you should let you out.>> One guy from the UK here, one guy fromFrance here, one guy from Germany here,one lady from Usbekiststan here. like itjust lady from US is not allowed todrive but go on [laughter]I think you can drive inistan I don'tknow um but as a result there's nocultural crossover where for example ifI'm driving in the UK I know that if aguy gets really angry beeping his hornat me it's like it's what it is likeit's chill whereas I also wouldn't dothat I would never I'm not a big hornbeeper anyway but I would be way morelike to beep in the UK than I would here>> everyone's got guns>> yes so it's just understanding the layof the land. But when you're insomewhere like Dubai where it's
01:14:58just itthere's there's no cultural uh attitudeson the roads, it's just>> it's too much of a melting pot and youneed consensus cuz that's the only waythat it works. I told you about the theguy who uh I was in a Uber. was like athis was in Dubai and it was like aSprinter van and [snorts] I'm in theback of the Sprinter van and we're onthe roads and there's like loads ofother people in the Uber on the way to asteak restaurant and I'm just kind oflonely looking out the window and I kindof look at the driver and he's on hisphone and he's goes off the the maps fora second. What's he going on? And I lookat it and he's on trading 212. He'strading crypto, wasn't he?>> And he was he was shorting I think theJapanese yen as he's going 70 on thehighway.>> And I so I I shouted at I go I go stopright now and this you know this is themost British thing ever. I thought whynot say don't want to say anything.[laughter]>> I'll risk I don't want to make a fuss. Ishouldn't make a I shouldn't make afuss.>> If I die cuz some>> trying to short Japanese yen. So Ishouted at him and he stopped. Startlooking out the window again. Come back.He's doing it against the pound.
01:16:13[laughter]>> Yeah. The issue was my issue wasn't thecurrency. My issue wasn't the currency.It wasn't the trade. It was the factthat you were doing the trading.>> Man,>> I'm here for the self-driving cars.>> So you can So you can do as much tradingas you want.>> Yeah. Yeah.>> Yeah. [ __ ] yeah. All right. I appreciateyou, man. Until next time. So much fun.>> See you everybody.>> Thank you very much for tuning in. Ifyou enjoyed that episode, another onethat I know you love, it's just here.